tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013339306349204192.post8078979328680403685..comments2023-11-05T22:39:34.996+10:30Comments on Classic Theology New: It's All About UnionWarren Huffahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06641632471131333680noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013339306349204192.post-61186366087468568872008-05-30T15:32:00.000+09:302008-05-30T15:32:00.000+09:30I like that term "fall upwards" because to my 21st...I like that term "fall upwards" because to my 21st Century mind to not know the difference between Good and Evil I would consider not so much innocents but as foolishness. <BR/>Its part of the reason I always struggled with the Adam and Eve story. Why would God not want humanity to know what is right and what is wrong. As to know this is to be closer to the image of God. Which is perhaps closer Stephen James Bloorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13445573957846566091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013339306349204192.post-68973618324500235962008-05-30T13:30:00.000+09:302008-05-30T13:30:00.000+09:30Yes, I too am persuaded that the 'fall upwards' is...Yes, I too am persuaded that the 'fall upwards' is part of this enfolding back into God at a higher level of relationship.Warren Huffahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06641632471131333680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013339306349204192.post-84992698227459455932008-05-30T12:40:00.000+09:302008-05-30T12:40:00.000+09:30Well if it was Tony Kelly who said that he is buil...Well if it was Tony Kelly who said that he is building on the foundation that was laid by St.Irenaeus. Whom saw the fall as unfortunate but in some ways necessary for humanity to reach the level that God intended Creation and in particular Humanity to reach.Stephen James Bloorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13445573957846566091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013339306349204192.post-73904335091415169422008-05-30T12:39:00.000+09:302008-05-30T12:39:00.000+09:30This comment has been removed by the author.Stephen James Bloorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13445573957846566091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013339306349204192.post-61000505818760909272008-05-30T10:07:00.000+09:302008-05-30T10:07:00.000+09:30I think it was Tony Kelly I heard say that the poi...I think it was Tony Kelly I heard say that the point of redemption was to enfold creation back into God at a higher level of relationship than when created.Warren Huffahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06641632471131333680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013339306349204192.post-65320920905389753522008-05-29T18:32:00.000+09:302008-05-29T18:32:00.000+09:30I think this is quite a sensible metaphor because ...I think this is quite a sensible metaphor because if we for example try to answer the question of "why did God create the Universe" It is to have something into which God's love could be poured out into. Not that God needed to Create but that is the outcome of the extend of God's love. That God's love continues beyond God's self.<BR/><BR/>This would suggest that indeed we are called by God to be Stephen James Bloorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13445573957846566091noreply@blogger.com